{"id":190,"date":"2009-11-30T13:42:45","date_gmt":"2009-11-30T13:42:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/?p=190"},"modified":"2026-03-23T08:30:57","modified_gmt":"2026-03-23T08:30:57","slug":"the-formorians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/the-formorians\/","title":{"rendered":"Formorians"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>The<\/strong><strong> Formorians<\/strong> are reputed to have been the earliest occupiers of <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/ireland\/\">Ireland <\/a><em><strong>after<\/strong><\/em> the last <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/ice-ages\/\">Ice Age<\/a>, according to the <em>Book of Invasions<\/em><sup>(e)<\/sup>. Although the etymology of their name is uncertain, a commonly accepted theory is that the term Formorian is supposed to be derived from \u2018Firmorrichi\u2019, meaning \u2018men of <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/morocco-revised\/\">Morocco<\/a>\u2019, conforming to a tradition that they came from <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/north-africa\/\">North Africa<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/dietrich-thomas-k\/\">Thomas Dietrich<\/a> is happy to accept<sup>[<\/sup><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/main-bibliography\/d\/\"><sup>0217<\/sup><\/a><sup>]<\/sup> the Moroccan connection as he considers early Morocco to have been a colony of Atlantis and so by extension to have brought Atlantean culture to Ireland.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/donnelly-ignatius-loyola\/\">Ignatius Donnelly<\/a> in Part V, chapter 7<sup>(f)<\/sup> of his now rather dated 1882 book, <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/atlantis-the-antediluvian-world\/\"><em>Atlantis: The Antediluvian World<\/em><\/a>, also designates Ireland as a former colony of Atlantis. He also disputes the generally accepted etymology for the name &#8216;Formorian&#8217;, preferring to adopt the views of Col. Francis Wilford<sup>[<\/sup><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/main-bibliography\/w-z\/\"><sup>0114<\/sup><\/a><sup>]<\/sup> to support his contention that it means &#8216;from the west&#8217;, which, according to Donnelly, could only be a reference to Atlantis in the Atlantic.<\/p>\n<p>However, the Irish <em>Annals of Clonmacnoise<\/em><sup>(g)<\/sup> claim that the Formorians were descended from Noah&#8217;s youngest son Cham, who according to the Bible, was born 100 years before the Flood (Genesis 7).<\/p>\n<p>The <em>Ancient Pages.com<\/em> website had an article in July 2017 with the misleading headline of <em>&#8220;Formorians: Supernatural Race Of Giants Who Came From Atlantis&#8221;, <\/em>without a single mention of Atlantis in the body of the text(h). Readers can draw their own conclusions about the reliability of A. Sutherland, the author.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/coghlan-ronan\/\">Ronan Coghlan<\/a> has suggested that \u201cthe CHAM referred to in the <em>Annals of Clonmacnoise<\/em> is not SHEM but HAM, noting that in the Vulgate translation of the Bible, Ham is CHAM\u201d!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/stacy-judd-robert-b-n\/\">Robert Stacy-Judd<\/a><sup>[<a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/main-bibliography\/s\/\">0607<\/a>.237]<\/sup> followed Donnelly and accepted that the ancient Irish annals<sup>(b)<\/sup> describe the Formorians coming to Ireland \u2018<strong>before<\/strong> the <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/deluge\/\">Deluge<\/a>\u2019 and having a fleet of sixty ships and a strong army. He also quotes the <em>Annals of Clonmacnois, <\/em>which records that the Formorians, <em>\u2018were descended from Cham (Ham), the son of Noeh (Noah) and lived by piracy and spoil of other nations and were in those days very troublesome to the whole world.\u2019<\/em> Stacy-Judd also speculates that Noah and his sons were Atlanteans!<\/p>\n<p>The reliability of the Irish annals as historical documents is highly questionable, particularly when dealing with very early events.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/nienhuis-james-i\/\">James\u00a0I. Nienhuis<\/a> seems to have adapted some of Dietrich\u2019s ideas for his <em>Dancing from Genesis <\/em>blog (Nov. 2007)<sup>(a) <\/sup>, although he does not seem to be clear on the difference between Ireland and Britain, as he places Newgrange in the United Kingdom and has the Formorians settling in <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/britain\/\">Britain<\/a> rather than Ireland!<\/p>\n<p>The excellent <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/migration-and-diffusion\/\"><em>Migration and Diffusion<\/em> <\/a>website<sup>(c)<\/sup> has a paper by Stuart L. Harris, who puts more flesh on the bones of the idea of the Formorian invasion of Ireland from Galicia in Spain, which he dates at 2186 BC. However, Harris\u2019s claims that <em>\u201cthe Formorians spoke and wrote in Finnish\u201d<\/em> and that <em>\u201cuntil about 1200 BC, Ireland spoke Finnish, not Gaelic,\u201d<\/em> reflecting his obsession with the ancient Finns. Such a claim would be guaranteed to raise the eyebrows, if not the hackles, of many Irish academics.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/drinnon-dale\/\">Dale Drinnon<\/a><\/span> has an extensive article on the Formorians, in his <em>Frontiers of Anthropology <\/em>website<sup>(d)<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p><sup>(a)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/dancingfromgenesis.wordpress.com\/\">https:\/\/dancingfromgenesis.wordpress.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(b)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scss.tcd.ie\/misc\/kronos\/chronology\/synchronisms\/Edition_4\/K_trad\/K_synch.htm\">https:\/\/www.scss.tcd.ie\/misc\/kronos\/chronology\/synchronisms\/Edition_4\/K_trad\/K_synch.htm<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(c)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.migration-diffusion.info\/article.php?year=2012&amp;id=333\">https:\/\/www.migration-diffusion.info\/article.php?year=2012&amp;id=333<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(d) <\/sup><a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20200216125222\/https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-3570\/\">http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20200216125222\/https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-3570\/ <\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(e) <\/sup><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lebor_Gab\u00e1la_\u00c9renn\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lebor_Gab\u00e1la_\u00c9renn<\/a>\u00a0 or<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20200215123807\/https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-3628-2\/\">http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20200215123807\/https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-3628-2\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(f)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sacred-texts.com\/atl\/ataw\/ataw507.htm\">https:\/\/www.sacred-texts.com\/atl\/ataw\/ataw507.htm<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(g)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/annalsofclonmacn00mage\/annalsofclonmacn00mage_djvu.txt\">https:\/\/archive.org\/stream\/annalsofclonmacn00mage\/annalsofclonmacn00mage_djvu.txt<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(h)<\/sup> http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20240927032503\/https:\/\/www.ancientpages.com\/2017\/07\/18\/fomorians-supernatural-race-giants-came-atlantis\/<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Formorians are reputed to have been the earliest occupiers of Ireland after the last Ice Age, according to the Book of Invasions(e). 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