{"id":23794,"date":"2014-04-27T07:36:55","date_gmt":"2014-04-27T06:36:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/?p=23794"},"modified":"2026-03-14T08:17:27","modified_gmt":"2026-03-14T08:17:27","slug":"gunung-padang-n","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/gunung-padang-n\/","title":{"rendered":"Gunung Padang"},"content":{"rendered":"

Gunung Padang<\/strong> is a megalithic site on the Indonesian island of Java,\u00a0which was first surveyed in 1914 by the Dutch colonial authorities and published as Rapporten van de Oudheidkundige Dienst (Report of the Department of Antiquities).<\/em> A post-war Australian investigation concluded that the site was much older than previously believed. Now, with presidential support, local archaeologists are carrying out an extensive investigation of the site.<\/p>\n

The site has recently been\u00a0claimed as part of \"gunung<\/a>Atlantis. Evidence that the site contains hidden chambers prompted Graham Hancock to speculate whether it\u00a0“<\/em>Could it be the fabled “Hall of Records” of<\/em> Atlantis?”(k)<\/sup>. <\/b>Apart from contradicting Edgar Cayce<\/a>\u00a0 this piece of unbridled conjecture was debunked in a YouTube video(k)<\/sup>. Furthermore, in their book Keepers of Genesis<\/em> [<\/sup>1050<\/a>]<\/sup>, Robert Bauval<\/a> and Hancock had already designated a location under the rear paws of the Giza Sphinx<\/a> as the home of the Hall of Records!<\/p>\n

A few years ago, the late Arysio dos Santos<\/a> was the leading proponent of Sundaland<\/a>, which included Indonesia<\/a>, being Atlantis. Then, Danny Hilman Natawidjaja<\/a> (DHN) an Indonesian geologist, has made a similar claim in his Kindle ebook, Plato Never Lied: Atlantis Is in Indonesia<\/i>[961<\/a>]<\/sup>. In it, Gunung Padang plays an important role. Mount Padang has also been claimed as the world\u2019s oldest pyramid<\/a>! Although I do not support the idea of an Indonesian Atlantis, I am forced to admit that a far more interesting case for it has been made by Dhani Irwanto<\/a>.<\/p>\n

In his review of Hancock\u2019s Magicians of the Gods<\/em>, Jason Colavito<\/a> refers to \u00a0\u201c<\/em>Danny Hilman Natawidjaja (DHN), the Indonesian geologist who declared the site of Gunung Padang on Sumatra to be ten or twenty thousand years old, and thus making Indonesia the cradle of civilization. Natawidjaja is a true believer in fringe history and suspects that Plato was speaking of Gunung Padang when writing of Atlantis. His opinions are noteworthy only because the previous government of Indonesia gave him the money and resources to excavate the site in search of proof of Indonesian primacy in history before the current government shut down the investigation for becoming an international laughing-stock. Like Semir Osmanogich in <\/em>Bosnia<\/em><\/a>, Natawidjaja sees artificial layers of construction in the deepest layers of what his colleagues in Indonesia and archaeologists around the world believe to be a natural hill crowned with later ruins.\u201d<\/em> (n)<\/sup>.<\/span><\/p>\n

Nevertheless, a recent (May 2017) assault on Natawidjaja’s theories in an open letter(i)<\/sup><\/span> from Rebecca Bradley has laid bare the weaknesses in his claims.<\/p>\n

DHN, in an address to the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in 2018, said that radiocarbon dating suggests the top layer of the site could be up to 3,500 years old, the second layer somewhere around 8,000 years old, and the third layer anywhere in the vicinity of 9,500 to 28,000 years old<\/span>(j)<\/sup>.<\/span><\/p>\n

Graham Hancock<\/a> has written a review<\/span>(b)<\/span><\/sup> of the excavations at Gunung Padang and in October 2014 added further comments<\/span>(d)(m)<\/sup>.<\/span><\/p>\n

In the 2001 Netflix Apocalypse Now<\/em> TV series, Hancock returned to the subject of Gunung Padang as well as Nan Madol<\/a>. Fortunately, there is a YouTube video(u)<\/sup> \u00a0that forensically analyses Episode 1, revealing a litany of errors and misleading statements that seriously undermine Hancock’s credibility.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/span>Robert Schoch<\/a> has also offered a geologist\u2019s view of the site<\/span>(f)<\/sup>.<\/span><\/p>\n

One report that I thought rather interesting was that <\/span>“aside from its age, is that during coring it was found that much of the buried structure was reinforced with a type of cement.\u00a0 This bonding agent, which has been used as a mortar and sort of glue in certain parts of the site, consists of 45% iron ore, 41% silica and 14% clay.\u00a0 It\u2019s said that this mixture provides for a very strong and durable mortar base, and is surprising evidence of the level of sophistication of the building technique.”<\/em>(l)<\/sup><\/p>\n

Andrew Collins <\/a>has now added an article(h)<\/span><\/sup>. to his website that examines the preliminary claim that the lower levels at the site could be 12,000 years older than Gobekli Tepe<\/a>. If confirmed, it will undoubtedly require some rewriting of history books. Do not lose sight of the fact that radiocarbon dating<\/a> has limitations, being accurate for up to around 6,000 years, with increasing unreliability up to perhaps 50,000 BC after which it is generally useless.<\/p>\n

We now (Nov. \u201914) have a report(e)<\/sup> that some type of \u2018electrical device\u2019 has been discovered at the site \u2018<\/strong>made out of gold and copper and seems to resemble a primitive electrical capacitor.\u2019 Until further information is available, this claim must be treated with caution.<\/p>\n

There are, however, dissenting voices as reported by journalist,\u00a0Michael Bachelard(g)<\/sup>, such as vulcanologist Sutikno Bronto, who says, \u201cGunung Padang is simply the neck of a nearby volcano, not an ancient pyramid. Danny Hilman is not a vulcanologist. I am.<\/em>” As for the carbon-dated cement between the stones, on which Hilman relies for his claims about the age of the site, Sutikno believes it is simply the byproduct of a natural weathering process, ”not man-made”<\/em>. Other sceptics are even tougher. One archaeologist, who does not wish to be named since the President took such an interest, says the presidential taskforce is deluding itself. ”In the Pawon cave in Padalarang [about 45 kilometres from Gunung Padang], we found some human bones and tools made of bones about 9500 years ago, or about 7000 BCE. So, if at 7000 BCE our technology was only producing tools of bones, how can people from 20,000 BCE obtain the technology to build a pyramid?” <\/em>the archaeologist asks.<\/p>\n

In October 2023, Danny Hilman endeavoured to return to the limelight with a paper in the journal Archaeological<\/em> Prospection(o)<\/sup>, published by Wiley, in which he recycled some of his earlier claims identifying Gunung Padang as an Ice Age pyramid. Jason Colavito commented briefly(p)<\/sup> on this latest feeble offering from Hilman and cites a more forensic article by Carl Feagans(q)<\/sup> as an effective rebuttal. <\/b>It was subsequently revealed(r) <\/sup>that the journal and its publisher have launched an ethics investigation into the flawed paper, according to a\u00a0report\u00a0in\u00a0Nature<\/em>!<\/p>\n

March 2024 saw Archaeological Prospection<\/em> retract this flawed paper(s)<\/sup>.<\/p>\n

Danny Hilman et al<\/em> published their reaction to the retraction on Graham Hancock’s website, describing the rescindment as ‘unjust’(t)<\/sup>.<\/p>\n

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(a)<\/sup> https:\/\/projectavalon.net\/forum4\/showthread.php?62108-Is-Gunung-Padang-the-oldest-pyramid-on-the-planet<\/a><\/p>\n

(b)<\/sup> https:\/\/wakeup-world.com\/2014\/07\/03\/new-archaeological-discoveries-uncover-the-mysteries-of-a-lost-civilisation\/<\/a><\/p>\n

(c) <\/sup>https:\/\/www.andrewcollins.com\/page\/articles\/gp.htm<\/a><\/p>\n

(d) <\/sup>https:\/\/www.grahamhancock.com\/forum\/HancockG10-Gunung-Padang-Latest.php<\/a><\/p>\n

(e)<\/sup> https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20170811003647\/https:\/\/mysteriousearth.net\/2016\/05\/11\/amazing-2500-year-old-electrical-device-found-at-gunung-padang\/<\/a><\/p>\n

(f)<\/sup> https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20140716174346\/https:\/\/atlantisrisingmagazine.com\/2014\/03\/01\/journey-to-gunung-padang\/<\/a><\/p>\n

(g)<\/sup> https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/world\/digging-for-the-truth-at-controversial-megalithic-site-20130726-2qphb.html<\/a><\/p>\n

(h) <\/sup>https:\/\/www.andrewcollins.com\/page\/news\/eq_0515.htm<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n

(i)<\/sup> https:\/\/www.skepticink.com\/lateraltruth\/2017\/05\/14\/gunung-padang-open-letter-danny\/<\/a><\/p>\n

(j)<\/sup> Long-Hidden ‘Pyramid’ Found in Indonesia Was Likely an Ancient Temple | Live Science<\/a><\/p>\n

(k)<\/sup> Gunung Padang: The lost records of Atlantis? — Secret History — Sott.net<\/a><\/p>\n

(l) <\/sup>Gunung Padang and The Lost City of Atlantis | Mysterious Universe<\/a> (link broken) *<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

(m) <\/sup>https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/8776410\/From_Indonesia_To_Turkey_New_Archaeological_Discoveries_Uncover_The_Mysteries_Of_A_Lost_Civilisation_By_Graham_Hancock<\/a><\/p>\n

(n)<\/sup> Magicians of the Gods Review – JASON COLAVITO<\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

(0)<\/sup> https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/full\/10.1002\/arp.1912<\/a><\/p>\n

(p)<\/sup> https:\/\/www.jasoncolavito.com\/blog\/on-the-fantasy-of-a-primeval-gunung-padang-pyramid<\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

(q) <\/sup>https:\/\/ahotcupofjoe.net\/2023\/08\/gunung-padang-what-archaeology-really-says\/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Twitter&referrer-analytics=1<\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

(r)<\/sup> https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/d41586-023-03546-w<\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

(s)<\/sup> Archaeological Prospection | Archaeological Journal | Wiley Online Library<\/a>\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

(t)<\/sup> The Unjust Retraction of Groundbreaking Research: A Call for Academic Integrity – Graham Hancock Official Website<\/a>
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(u) <\/sup>Potholer54 Debunks Graham Hancock’s Ancient Apocalypse Theory – Search Videos (bing.com)<\/a>
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