{"id":3870,"date":"2010-06-11T09:32:48","date_gmt":"2010-06-11T09:32:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/schoppe-christian-siegfried\/"},"modified":"2025-11-06T10:15:39","modified_gmt":"2025-11-06T10:15:39","slug":"schoppe-christian-siegfried","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/schoppe-christian-siegfried\/","title":{"rendered":"Schoppe, Christian &#038; Siegfried"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_26231\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/Siegfried-Schoppe.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26231\" class=\"wp-image-26231 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/Siegfried-Schoppe-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"Siegfried Schoppe\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-26231\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Siegfried Schoppe<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>Christian &amp; Siegfried<\/strong> <strong>S<\/strong><strong>choppe<\/strong> are a father and son team of German researchers, who firmly assert that Atlantis was located in the Black Sea. More specifically they suggest that Snake Island<sup>(b)\u00a0<\/sup>situated 35 km east of the Danube Delta, was the location of the Atlantean capital. Snake Island has also been referred to in a Russian website<sup>(c)<\/sup> that discusses a Black Sea Atlantis. It includes a number of video clips with Russian dialogue.<\/p>\n<p>Snake Island has also been adopted by <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/weller-george-k\/\">George K. Weller <\/a>as the location of Atlantis<sup>(h)<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>Their contention is that before 5500 BC there was a great plain in the northwest of the area, now occupied by the <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/927\/\">Black Sea<\/a>, which was then a much smaller freshwater lake. Atlantis in their view was situated on what was formerly the shore of this lake. The Schoppe\u2019s echo the<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_26232\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/christian-schoppe.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26232\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-26232\" src=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/christian-schoppe-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"christian schoppe\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/christian-schoppe-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/christian-schoppe-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/06\/christian-schoppe.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-26232\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">christian schoppe<\/p><\/div>\n<p>view of <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/ryan-pitman-n\/\">Ryan and Pitman <\/a>who were probably the first in 1998, to advance the idea that around 5500 BC the barrier at today\u2019s Bosporus broke open due to the rising world sea levels and raised the level of the Black Sea, flooding a huge area of cultivated land, an event that lay behind the story of Noah\u2019s Flood.<\/p>\n<p>The Schoppes, on the other hand, identify this flooding of the Black Sea with the flooding of Atlantis and maintain that the Pillars of Heracles are located at the Strait of Bosporus. They further suggest that the <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/orichalcum\/\">Orichalcum<\/a> mentioned by Plato was in fact <a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/obsidian-new\/\">obsidian<\/a> that used to be a cash-equivalent at that time and was replaced by the spondylus shell around 5500 BC. This geocatastrophic event, according to the Schoppes, led to the Neolithic diaspora in Europe which also began around 5500 BC.<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&gt;<\/span><\/strong>They also claim that included in that movement of refugees from Atlantis were the <a href=\"#Vinca\">Vinca<\/a> people<sup>(i<\/sup><sup>)<\/sup>.<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&lt;<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>They also claim to have identified the location of the ten kingdoms of the Atlantean empire through an investigation of placenames for both meaning and sound.\u00a0The theories of the Schoppe\u2019s are contained in their book, <em>Atlantis und die Sintflut<\/em> <sup>[<\/sup><a href=\"https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/main-bibliography\/s\/\"><sup>186<\/sup><\/a><sup>]<\/sup> and outlined on their website<sup>(<\/sup><sup>a<\/sup><sup>)<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>In 2005, the Schoppes offered their theory to the <a href=\"#AtlantisConference2005\">Atlantis Conference<\/a> on Milos and published their presentation online<sup><span style=\"font-size: small;\">(g<\/span><\/sup><sup>)<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>In June 2015, Siegfried Schoppe offered the latest paper in support of their Black Sea location for Atlantis<sup>(d)<\/sup> for publication on the <em>Atlantipedia.ie<\/em> website, as well as a shorter note, also in support of their theory<sup>(e)<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>In a short paper<sup>(f)<\/sup>, the Schoppes also compared the effects of the fall of Rome with the consequences of the demise of Atlantis.<\/p>\n<p>The Atlantis theory of the Schoppes, along with many others matches many of the clues offered by Plato, but for me, I find it difficult to understand how an Atlantis situated east of Athens and north of Egypt in the Black Sea\u00a0could attack\u00a0them from the <strong><em>west<\/em><\/strong>! In fact, what Plato said was that the invasion came from the Atlantic Sea (pelagos). Although there is some disagreement about the location of this Atlantic Sea, all candidates proposed so far are west of both Athens, Egypt and the Black Sea (Tim.24e &amp; Crit.114c).<\/p>\n<p>Then, a few years ago the Schoppes suddenly and without explanation &#8216;closed shop&#8217; and removed all their weblinks!<\/p>\n<p><sup>(<\/sup><sup>a<\/sup><sup>)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20190830053312\/https:\/\/www.black-sea-atlantis.com\/black-sea-atlantis\/\">https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20190830053312\/https:\/\/www.black-sea-atlantis.com\/black-sea-atlantis\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(b)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Snake_Island_(Black_Sea)\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Snake_Island_(Black_Sea)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(c)<\/sup> https:\/\/survincity.com\/2010\/04\/conspiracy-theory-black-sea-atlantis-the-case-of\/ (link broken Dec.2020)<\/p>\n<p>(d) <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20200215012011\/https:\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-5098\/\">http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20200215012011\/https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-5098\/<\/a> (German)<\/p>\n<p>(e) <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210121172309\/https:\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-5099-n\/\">http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210121172309\/https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-5099-n\/<\/a> (English)<\/p>\n<p>(f) <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210122145343\/https:\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-2873\/\">http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20210122145343\/https:\/\/atlantipedia.ie\/samples\/archive-2873\/<\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0(German\/English)<\/p>\n<p><sup>(g)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20190819053202\/https:\/\/www.black-sea-atlantis.com\/milos.pdf\">https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20190819053202\/https:\/\/www.black-sea-atlantis.com\/milos.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(h)<\/sup> <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20211202064913\/http:\/\/www.ctq2.org\/farmers-blog\/comparison-of-platos-critias-with-george-k-wellers-concept-of-atlantis-and-its-location\/\">Comparison of Plato\u2019s Critias with George K. Weller\u2019s concept of ancient Atlantis and its actual location. \u2013 The Weller Farm (archive.org)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><sup>(i)<\/sup> \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20160331142020\/http:\/atlantis-schoppe.de\/vinca.html\">The Vinca &#8211; Atlantis refugees (archive.org)<\/a><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Christian &amp; Siegfried Schoppe are a father and son team of German researchers, who firmly assert that Atlantis was located in the Black Sea. More specifically they suggest that Snake Island(b)\u00a0situated 35 km east of the Danube Delta, was the location of the Atlantean capital. 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