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Ica Stones

Elefant, Roger

Roger Elefant is a French writer who has written (only in French)

Roger Elefant 1975

Roger Elefant 1975

on a range of ‘New Age’ subjects – Mu, hollow earth, UFO’s, the Ica Stones etc., etc(a). His books appear to be mainly a mish-mash of other writers ideas with Robert Charroux and Edgar Cayce  figuring prominently. His ideas on Atlantis are just echoes of Cayce’s ‘visions’ and like Cayce the few references to Plato are usually only encountered en passant. I found little originality in Elefant’s work except when I read his claim that Tiwanaku had been built by the Vikings _ D’autre part, Tiahuanaco, aussi incroyable que cela paraisse, aurait été construite par les Vikings, sur (et avec) les ruines de la ville antique d’origine ! (Oui, j’écris bien les Vikings.)(b).

[On the other hand, Tiahuanaco, incredible as it may seem, was built by the Vikings on (and with) the ruins of the ancient city of origin! (Yes, I write out the Vikings …)]

*Elefant has also expressed support for the theories of James Churchward and his claims relating to Mu(d).*

In a more recent offering(c) Elefant claimed that the Basques are descendants of migrants from Atlantis.

(a) https://atlantide-mu.over-blog.com/

(b) https://atlantide-mu.over-blog.com/article-mysteres-du-monde-72336522.html

(c) https://atlantide-mu.over-blog.com/2016/01/les-basques-sont-des-atlantes.html

*(d) https://atlantide-mu.over-blog.com/article-les-chinois-96867407.html*

Ica Stones

The Ica Stones are named after a town south of Lima in Peru. They are a collection of many thousands of andesite stones that are allegedly of great antiquity that depict Cabrera01_05images of extinct animal species including dinosaurs. These ancient stones are also claimed to show the execution of advanced medical procedures. The late Dr. Javier Cabrera Darque, usually referred to as Dr. Cabrera, built up a huge collection of these stones. This remarkable collection is quoted by many as ‘proof’ of advanced technology co-existing with dinosaurs.

>Extensive excerpts from Cabrera’s book, The Message of the Stones, are available online(e).<

Dennis Swift has written Secrets of the Ica Stones and Nazca Lines in which he supports the authenticity of the stones(f), but then, Swift is a ‘young earth’ creationist and has a vested interest in claiming the co-existence of man and dinosaurs. As Carl Sagan famously said “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, so Swift will need more than artefacts denounced as fakes by so many if he wishes to overthrow long-established scientific evidence regarding the millions of years that elapsed between the time of the dinosaurs and the evolution of man.

Unfortunately, a series of claims and retractions regarding the possible forging of these stones has cast such a cloud over their authenticity that they are no longer acceptable as proof of anything. Some early-date Atlantis seekers used to quote the Ica stones to support the idea of the advanced technology related by Plato existing as early as 9600 BC. Unfortunately, the questionable antiquity of the stones has barred their use in this regard.

Ica Stone 1This scepticism would appear justified when you see one of the inscribed figures using a somewhat anachronistic telescope.

A balanced account of the stones can be found on the Wikipedia site(a) as well as another site(b) that has a considerable number of links.

The German-language Wikipedia(d) states in this connection: ” Archaeologist Neil Steede examined some of the Ica stones for the film The Mysterious Origins of Man, which was intended to show that mankind existed much longer, as assumed by science. Steede claims to have discovered patina on the stones, but not on the engravings. He concludes that the engravings of the specimens he examined must be much younger than the stones.

In 1998, Vincente Paris, a Spanish investigator offered further evidence(c) condemning the stones as a hoax.>There are numerous sites offering a sceptical view of the Ica Stones(g), but there there are also commentators offering a more sympathetic view of their authenticity(h)(i).<

(a) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ica_stones

(b) The Ica Stones (archive.org)  *

(c) https://www.qries.com/What-are-the-mysteries-of-Ica-Stones *

(d) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steine_von_Ica 

(e)  book exerpt #1: Introduction (archive.org) *

(f)  https://www.theepochtimes.com/icas-engraved-stones-a-prehistoric-library_1509680.html  *

(g) Ica stones (archive.org) *

(h) Library in Stone: The Ica Stones of Professor Cabrera – Part I | Ancient Origins (ancient-origins.net) *

(i) Library in Stone: The Ica Stones of Professor Cabrera – Part II | Ancient Origins (ancient-origins.net)  *