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Zarathustra

Zarathustra

Zarathustra (Greek Zoroaster) was the founder of Zoroastrianism, the pre-Islamic religion of Iran and arguably established the first monotheistic faith. Aspects of its basic tenets are to be found within today’s Abrahamic religions and is claimed to have even influenced aspects of popular culture, such as Star Wars and Game of Thrones(a).

>The Teachings of Zoroaster by S.A. Kapadia offers a short study of the religion of Zoroaster published in 1905(c).<

Zarathustra is generally accepted to have preached in the 7th century BC, but this is disputed, as is the question of whether the name refers to one or a number of people. Mary Settegast quotes[545] the Iranologist, Wilhelm Geiger (1856-1943), who supported[597] the view of a number of classical Greek writers who believed that Zarathustra lived 6,000 years before the death of Plato. Geiger quotes an ancient commentary that suggests that Zarathustra was ‘Greek or one of those who came forth from the Continent on the other side of the great sea’, which he speculates might have been Atlantis.

Graham Hancock has referred to Zarathustra at length in his Magicians of the Gods[1119] while an extensive internet article(b) discusses details of Hancock’s opinions as well as highlighting the range of dates attributed to Zarathustra in the following excerpt; Exactly how old Zoroastrianism is, has not yet been satisfactorily established by scholars, since even the lifetime of its prophet Zarathustra (better known as Zoroaster) is uncertain. Indeed, as Columbia University’s authoritative Encyclopedia Iranica admits: ‘Controversy over Zarathustra’s date has been an embarrassment of long-standing to Zoroastrian studies.’

The Greek historians were amongst the first to address themselves to the matter. Plutarch, for example, tells us that Zoroaster ‘lived 5,000 years before the Trojan War’ (itself a matter of uncertain historicity but generally put at around 1300 BC, thus 5,000 plus 1,300 = 6300 BC). A similar chronology is given by Diogenes Laertius, who relates that Zoroaster lived ‘6,000 years before Xerxes’ Greek campaign’ (i.e. around 6480 BC). More recent scholars have proposed dates as far apart as 1750 BC and ‘258 years before Alexander’ (i.e. around 588 BC). Whatever the truth of the matter, it is agreed that Zoroaster himself borrowed from much earlier traditions and that Zoroastrianism, therefore, like many other religions, has roots that extend very far back into prehistory.”

Settegast has now published a second book[546] on the time of Zarathustra.

(a) The obscure religion that shaped the West – BBC Culture (archive.org)

(b) The Zoroastrian Texts of Ancient Persia & What They Reveal About Advanced Ancient Civilizations – Collective Evolution (archive.org)

(c) https://www.sacred-texts.com/zor/toz/index.htm *

Settegast, Mary

Mary Settegast (1934-2020)* held graduate degrees from the University of California at Berkeley and Columbia University and lives in Boulder, Colorado. She is the author of a groundbreaking book[545] on the prehistory of the Mediterranean region and its conformity with settegast_maryPlato’s story of Atlantis.>The first edition of her book can be borrowed from the Internet Archive(b).<

Settegast identified the migrations of the bearers of the Magdalenian culture southward through Spain and across to Africa and eastward to Egypt and eventually north into the Levant. She believes that this movement of people and their inevitable military encounters which occurred in a pre-literate age are only available to us through the distorted prism of legend and the fragmentary artefacts discovered by archaeologists. Plato’s account can be seen as a half-remembered version of events that took place over a hundred generations earlier. This book has been critically acclaimed and is considered a ‘must’ for any serious student of the Atlantis mystery.

However, for me, her interpretation is too extreme as it removes so much of Plato’s narrative that it leaves less than a skeleton of its origlnal structure, devoid of any worthwhile historical value.>Her promotion of Plato’s apparent early date of circa 10,000 BC for Atlantis is unacceptable (see: Dating Atlantis) as neither Athens or Egypt existed at that time as organised societies!<

Her latest offering[546] again focuses on the time of Zarathustra, or more correctly on the prehistoric period ascribed to Zarathustra by Settegast.

>Atlantisforschung has a review of Settegast’s book by Ferdinand Speidel(a).<

 

(a) Die Prähistorie von 10.000 bis 5.000 v. Chr. in Mythos und Archäologie – Atlantisforschung.de (atlantisforschung-de.translate.goog) * 

(b) https://archive.org/details/platoprehistoria0000sett/page/n5/mode/2up *