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Silvertsen, Harry & Redman, Stephen

Harry Silvertsen & Stephen Redman are the authors of two volumes which combined are over 1000 pages entitled Deluge: From Genesis to Atlantis[843] and Measurements of the Gods[844]

Harry Silvertsen

Harry Sivertsen

In broad terms, the books are an intense study of the origin of the mythology of the Great Flood as well as the history of metrology. Chapters 13 & 14 of Deluge are devoted to the story of Atlantis. Both Deluge and Measurements are available online(a)(e). While dealing with specifics such as the etymology of Atlantis, Orichalcum and the Pillars of Heracles, I think the authors’ unusual conclusion is best expressed in their own words;

Stephen Redman

Stephen Redman

“It is found then, that Plato’s Atlantis ultimately is no more than another rendition of the ‘Great Flood’ mythology, in this case, utilised by him to illustrate his importance in lawgiving. If the Ten Commandments were given to Adam and Eve instead of Moses then there would be a direct Biblical comparison. In essence, the story of Atlantis reinforces the analysis of the flood and creation legends as outlined in Deluge as in addition to the celestial events described therein, there is the devastation caused by known flood events at Sundaland to which his description decidedly points, some 11,000 years ago. This approximate date is dictated not merely by Plato’s ‘9,000 years’ for Atlantis’s demise, but also by his depiction of its City and its central mound [the World Mountain supporting the axis of the heavens] as symbolically representing the constellation of Hercules when Tau Hercules was the Pole Star.”

Sivertsen has published two slightly different condensed versions(c)(d) of their Atlantis theory, which explains that “Plato’s main target was not a location on earth but a specific region of the sky and equally precise date. His reference to beyond, (or before[dependent upon who’s translation one reads] the Pillars of Hercules ” is not a reference to a location on Earth. This refers to a time before the constellation Hercules appeared in its precessional location with the small star Tau Hercules at the celestial North Pole, an era when Hercules was still to the west of the polar region. Tau Hercules was pole star for the period of 1000 years from 8100BC to 7100BC. Correctly, some of those who have assumed that Plato meant an island on Earth have looked to the west for its location; however, they have had the devaluation only partially correct as they should have been looking to the heavens and not the Atlantic.”

By his own admission, Sivertsen concedes that their theory does not match all the details in Plato’s story – Of course, while this short narrative explains the broad outline of the scheme devised by Plato there are details he used that are not explained here such as how he managed to have an educated Greece prior to Egypt or even why he wrote the tale in the first place.” In my view, there are many other flaws in Silversten’s interpretation of the Atlantis narrative. For example, the claim that “Atlantis, then, was not an island on Earth. Atlantis was the constellation Hercules. The Atlantians were the immigrants to Merhgarh (Pakistan) from Sundaland.”

>Silvertsen has also published a paper on the metrology of Stonehenge(f). In it he concluded that “there is a continuity of the same and related metrological units that have been in use since the early days of Indian development, long before Egypt had dreamt of a pyramid. The earliest identifiable time for the use of the measures was circa 7000 BC at Merhgarh India, now in Pakistan. The measures have had a provable continual use for at least 9000 years. Yet these units arrived at Merhgarh with people escaping flooding in Sundaland…

It is apparent that the units in use at Stonehenge circa 3000 BC were developed over 4,000 years before Stonehenge in a different part of the world; that some of the developed units are still in use today and have been in use since their inception many millennia ago. However, while more than sufficient evidence to support these statements can be found in Measurements of the Gods.”<

Silvertsen and Redman were guest authors on Graham Hancock’s website with a paper(b) entitled Science versus Religion.

(a) (99+) Deluge: from Genesis to Atlantis | Harry Sivertsen – Academia.edu 

(b) https://grahamhancock.com/sivertsenh1/

(c) https://www.academia.edu/36251661/Atlantis_The_explanation

(d) (99+) (PDF) Atlantis- The location as denoted by Plato. | Harry Sivertsen – Academia.edu

(e) https://www.academia.edu/45065564/Historical_Metrology_Measurements_of_the_Gods 

(f) https://www.academia.edu/41917594/The_Metrology_of_Stonehenge_2020 *

 

Allen, J.M.

J.M. Allen, a Scotsman, worked in the 1970’s as an expert in satellite mapping with the British Royal Air Force. He was also a researcher of ancient measuring systems. The combination of these two interests led to a Jim Allenconviction that Plato’s Atlantis could be matched with a site in the Altiplano of Bolivia,which he outlined in his book Atlantis: The Andes Solution[0040].  Coincidentally, in the same year, Tony Morrison published an article entitled The Bolivian Atlantis(k-n).

Allen’s case is primarily based on the discovery of a vast canal network in the region together with aerial photography indicating concentric rings on the ground. His chosen site of Pampa Aullagus contains red, white and black rock reminiscent of the Atlantean masonry described by Plato.

In a TV documentary that focused on his theory it was suggested that the other nine kingdoms that comprised the Atlantean domain were probably to be found in South America.

>>Allen has also written Decoding Ezekiel’s Temple(a), which discusses ancient measuring methods and concluded that the temple described by Ezekiel was in fact a Babylonian ziggurat(o).<<

In 2008 Allen delivered three papers to the 2nd Atlantis Conference[750] in Athens. All three papers are available online in a pdf format(g)(h)(i).

2009 saw the publication of a second book, Atlantis: Lost Kingdom of the Andes[207] designed to reinforce his original thesis of Atlantis on the Altiplano of Bolivia. A trilogy was completed in 2010 with the publication of The Atlantis Trail (Kindle)which records his travels in the Andes in search of Atlantis(b). A small hotel is now being built in Pampa Aullagus to cater for increased number of tourists, no doubt in response to the work of Jim Allen.

In 2012, Allen published Atlantis and the Persian Empire, which is available to download as a free pdf file(c). This work is really just a reprise of his earlier writings. In this somewhat provocatively titled book he claims that Plato took the geography of the Atlantis story from the Andes, a theme he has been promoting since 1998.

However, he also maintains that the military history in Plato’s narrative was based on the war between Athens and the Persian Empire in the 5th century BC. Another of his more exotic claims is that the Sea Peoples were from South America. Allen devotes a considerable part of the book to ancient South American metrology and ends with a comparison of relative merits of the Altiplano versus Santorini as the inspiration behind Plato’s Atlantis story.

An extensive critique of Allen’s theories is offered by Timothy J.Stephany on his website(e). Nevertheless, although I consider Allen’s basic theory regarding Atlantis unacceptable, I find that part of his website showing images(f) of an extensive range of artefacts demonstrate most eloquently that South American civilisation was heavily influenced by distant cultures, both east and west.

Support for Allen’s views has continued into 2013(d), despite those elements of his theory that still conflict with Plato’s narrative: dating, dimensions and the improbability of an invasion of the eastern Mediterranean by a force from the west coast South America! However, I have found that in 1900, Peter de Roo devoted chapter seven of his History of America before Columbus[890.v1] to a review of the idea that at various times native Americans travelled eastward and among other things were responsible for the settling of Egypt!

Allen’s site offers an extensive article on the life and research of Posnansky, including excerpts from his work(j).

(a)  https://web.archive.org/web/20200811094111/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/atlantisboliviapart1.htm

(b) https://web.archive.org/web/20180831185831/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/theatlantistrail.htm

(c) https://web.archive.org/web/20200704031245/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/boliviaandthesumerianconnection.htm

(d) https://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/03/atlantis-in-south-america-the-evidence-2441492.html

(e) See: Archive 2237

(f)  https://web.archive.org/web/20200629021253/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/artefacts.htm

(g) https://web.archive.org/web/20200718165434/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/athensfullpaper.pdf

(h)  https://web.archive.org/web/20200626174734/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/athensfullpaper2.pdf

(i)  https://web.archive.org/web/20200714051300/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/athensfullpaper3.pdf

(j)  https://web.archive.org/web/20190717211749/http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/posnansky.htm

(k) https://web.archive.org/web/20110520011911/http://southamericanpictures.com/features/feat4/atlantis.html

(l) https://web.archive.org/web/20110520012247/http://southamericanpictures.com/features/feat4/dawn.html

(m) https://web.archive.org/web/20110520045857/http://southamericanpictures.com/features/feat4/atlantis1.html

(n) https://web.archive.org/web/20101222160230/http://southamericanpictures.com/features/feat4/dawn1.html

(o) (92) Decoding Ezekiel’s Temple: The Great and Sacred cubits of the Bible | James Allen – Academia.edu *