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Corsini, Marco Guido

Marco Guido CorsiniMarco Guido Corsini (1954- ) is an Italian researcher who has produced yet another interpretation of the Phaistos Disk(a) as well as a number of online papers(b) (all in Italian) regarding the search for Atlantis. He identifies the Atlanteans(d) as the ‘Nordic’ Sea Peoples, a la Spanuth, and yet in another place he refers to Rome as the capital of Atlantis, which is interesting as Plato described the Atlantean domain extending as far a Tyrhennia(c), whose territory began just north of what was later known as Rome.

Corsini’s websites  are in Italian only and when translated by Google they are not the easiest to read. Unfortunately, Italians seem to rarely use paragraphs and Corsini has a rambling style, making lots of assertions, but offering little evidence to support them.

Corsini ventures into strange territory when he claims that the now ‘missing’ Tulli Papyrus(e) describes a UFO sighting by ancient Egyptians(f) and also that he would like to find the Loch Ness Monster(g)!

A further insight into Corsini’s personality was provided in a recent email that he sent to me, which I include here in its entirety:

You are a stupid man. Do not know italian and misinterpret my works. Finish to mention me and my works. You are stupid.”

My only comment is that I would prefer to be stupid than boorish.

(a) https://digilander.libero.it/marcoguidocorsini/rada.htm

(b) https://digilander.libero.it/mgcorsini/index.htm

(c)  Timaeus 25b & Critias 114c

(d) https://digilander.libero.it/mgcorsini/atlantide.htm

(e) https://www.catchpenny.org/tulli.html

(f) https://digilander.libero.it/marcoguidocorsini/tulli.htm

(g) https://digilander.libero.it/marcoguidocorsini/nessie2.htm

 

Brandenstein, Wilhelm *

brandenstein001Wilhelm Brandenstein (1898-1967), was a Viennese classical scholar, who wrote a detailed commentary[196] on Plato’s Atlantis and thought, “The theory that Plato simply invented the Egyptian derivation, while at the same time showing an extensive knowledge of sources, and constantly reaffirming that it was all pure truth, cannot be sustained”

He considered the Atlantis story to have been inspired by Minoan Crete although Spanuth claims that Brandenstein wrote to him with the conclusion that the story told to Solon related to the invasion of the Sea Peoples.

In 2013 Thorwald C. Franke published an English translation(a) of his 2006 paper on Brandenstein’s contribution to atlantology. It is interesting, but not altogether convincing, to read that

“Brandenstein believes that Solon erroneously linked two separate accounts to one: From Egypt he had knowledge on the Sea Peoples wars, from Athens he had traditions on the confrontation of Crete and Athens, as they are indeed documented in known myths. With this Brandenstein believed that only a part of the Atlantis tradition came from Egypt.”

While Franke’s paper is very welcome, it is to be hoped that a translation of Brandenstein’s entire book will be on offer at some point.

In 2023, Heinz-Günter Nesselrath published a paper attacking Thorwald C. Franke’s consistent support for Brandenstein’s Atlantis theories. Franke duly responded in his Newsletter No. 212(b).

(a) https://www.atlantis-scout.de/atlantis_brandenstein_engl.htm

(b) https://www.atlantis-scout.de/atlantis_newsl_archive.htm

(c) (99+) Revisiting a Flawed Atlantis Classic: W. Brandenstein, Atlantis, Größe und Untergang eines geheimnisvollen Inselreiches, 2023 | Heinz-Günther Nesselrath – Academia.edu *

Phaeacia

Phaeacia was a land described by Homer in his epic poem Odyssey, which is usually equated with the legendary island of Scheria, identified by many with Atlantis. .

Ignatius Donnelly was probably the first to suggest a linkage between Phaeacia and Atlantis. Jürgen Spanuth as well as Hennig and Kluge shared this view of Donnelly‘s,  Based on Hennig’s work Spanuth listed 32 items of similarity between Phaeacia and Atlantis in his Atlantis – The Mystery Unravelled[017.143] and Atlantis of the North[015.218]. However,  N. Zhirov remarked that an equally long list of discrepancies could also be compiled, leaving the question still open.

There is something of a consensus among scholars that Phaeacia is a reference to the Greek island of Corfu. However, Hennig did not accept that Scheria could be identified with the Adriatic island, instead, he suggested that it was beside Spain.

An Atlantic location for Homer’s epic poems is advocated by N.R. De Graaf(d), the Dutch author of the Homeros Explorations website(c). Specifically, he concluded that Scheria can be identified with Lanzarote in the Canaries concurring with Iman Wilkens.

Armin Wolf who has studied extensively the geography of Homer’s Odyssey concluded a paper(b) on the subject as follows – “Scheria, the country of the Phaeacians, this ideal land described by Homer, was no fantasy, but nothing else but Greater Greece, Magna Graecia.”

>However, Felice Vinci, has strongly set Phaeacia in the geographical context of Norway [019.21-4] and offers a number of similarities between the Vikings and the Phaeacians. Kalju Pattustaja agrees with this identification of the Phaeacians(e) and cites Andres Pääbo as being of a similar view. However, it should be noted that Pääbo is highly critical of much of Vinci’s work(f).<

Roger Coghill is a more recent supporter of Scheria being another name for Atlantis, which he locates near Faro in Portugal. His views have been contrasted in the media(a) with those of Peter Daughtrey, who locates Atlantis not too far away in Silves.

(a) https://web.archive.org/web/20190803175205/https://meravista.com/en/blogentry/legendary-city-atl

(b) Wayback Machine (archive.org) 

(c) Homeros Explorations – Homer, facts or fiction? (homeros-explorations.nl) 

(d) Homer, facts or fiction? | ancient america 

(e) The Nordic Origin of Mycenaean Civilization -The Forgotten Finnic Roots (Link Broken) *

(f) http://www.paabo.ca/reviews/BalticHomericVinci.html *

Gadow, Gerhard (L)

Gerhard Gadow is a German writer who has produced a number of books on ‘fringe’ subjects. Among his varied output is a critique of Erich von Däniken’s ancient astronaut theory. He has written[305], in German, about Atlantis and devoted around half of this book to a study of Jürgen Spanuth ’s theories. The rest of this book gives an overview of the more popular theories including Atlantis in Spain, Atlantic, or Aegean etc.

Acropolis

Acropolis is the name given to the central highest position in ancient Greek cities, occupied by the principal religious and civic buildings. The Athenian acropolis was crowned by the magnificent Parthenon, constructed between 447-432 BC. An interesting claim is that the Parthenon was once ‘a riot of colour’(d). Another remarkable feature of the building is that its breadth has been carefully measured at 101.34 feet, which is exactly a second of latitude at the equator(b). The acropolis of Athens is the best known and often erroneously referred to as ‘The’ Acropolis. It is worth noting that the general description of an acropolis is mirrored in Plato’s description of the central buildings of Atlantis acropolis-plan3that were also located on elevated ground. Writers such as Jürgen Spanuth[015], Rainer W. Kühne(a)  as well as Papamarinopoulos(c) have concluded that the acropolis of Athens provides convincing evidence that the war between Atlantis and Athens took place around 1200 BC. Papamarinopoulos comments further that the Athens of Critias, is proved a reality of the 12th century B.C., described only by Plato and not by historians, such as Herodotus, Thucydides and others. Analysts of the past have mixed Plato’s fabricated Athens presented in his dialogue Republic with the non-fabricated Athens of his dialogue Critias. This serious error has deflected researchers from their target to interpret Plato’s text efficiently. (e)

Plato referred to dwellings for warriors (Crit. 112b) situated to the north of the Acropolis that were built in the 15th century BC and were not located again until the earlier part of our 20th century. He also refers to a spring (Critias 112d) that was destroyed during an earthquake. Kühne notes that this spring only existed for about 25 years but was found by the Swedish archaeologist, Oscar Broneer (1894-1992), who excavated there from 1959 to 1967. The destruction of the spring and barracks, by an earthquake, was confirmed as having occurring at the end of the 12th century BC. Plato describes how these catastrophes, of inundation and earthquake, that caused the destruction on the Acropolis, were only survived by those living inland, who were uneducated illiterate people, resulting in the knowledge of writing being lost.

>Papamarinopoulos claims [750.73]    that the Athens described by Plato in the Critias is an accurate description of Mycenaean Athens and then leaps to the conclusion that because the details of ancient Athens provided by Plato are correct then it must follow that his depiction of Atlantis is equally reliable! For me this is an unacceptable non sequitur, as Plato lived ln Athens and would have been fully aware of the city’s landmarks and tradition. On the other hand, he had not been to Atlantis, and in fact, he was somewhat vague regarding its actual location. Jason Colavito also took issue with Papamarinopoulos’ contention(f).<

J. Chadwick & Michael Ventris have shown that Linear B was written in an early Greek language and that in Greece it remained in use until around 1200 BC. Subsequently, the Greeks were without a script until the 8th century BC. This date of 1200 BC would appear to match the end of the war between Athens and Atlantis except for Plato’s reference to the earthquake being accompanied by a flood that was the third before the flood of Deucalion, usually dated to at least some centuries before 1200 BC, which implies an earlier date for the Atlantean war.

Collina-Girard in common with many others seems convinced that Atlantis was destroyed around 9500 BC but that Plato’s description of Atlantis is fictional. Collina-Girard’s theory of an Atlantis in the Gibraltar Strait inundated at the end of the Ice Age many thousands of years before the Acropolis existed, forced him to denounce Plato’s Bronze Age descriptions as fiction otherwise he could not justify the exploration of Spartel Island.

(a) Location and Dating of Atlantis (archive.org)

(b) https://www.dioi.org/kn/stade.pdf

(c) https://www.2009-q-conf-kandersteg.grazian-archive.com/platoandtheseism/papamarinopoulos-newversionof2009.pdf

(d) https://www.livescience.com/649-parthenon-riot-color.html

(e) https://ejournals.epublishing.ekt.gr/index.php/geosociety/article/view/11165

(f) https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/a-minor-atlantis-mystery-did-plato-correctly-describe-mycenaean-athens-in-the-critias *

Peterson, Ellis

Ellis Peterson (1937- ) is an American of Swedish extraction. He is a retired maths professor and now lives in Pennsylvania. He ragnartenthas a passionate interest in the Scandinavian runes and writes under the nom de plume of ‘Ragnar-Storyteller’. Peterson has some rather odd ideas about combining the runes with Quantum Physics to produce a variety of effects including healing.

Peterson has also studied ancient Scandinavian history with particular reference to pre-Columbian visits to the Americas, North and South. He also subscribes to Spanuth’s suggestion that the ‘Sea Peoples’ who invaded Egypt in the 2nd millennium BC were from Scandinavia and should have been designated ‘North Sea Peoples’. Peterson seems to have adopted most of Spanuth’s principal contentions – amber was Plato’s orichalcum, Phaeton destroyed Atlantis leading to the migration of the Atlantean survivors, proto-Vikings, to migrate south invading Egypt. He also locates the capital, Basileia, off the Danish coast. He has written several blogs on this subject(a)(b).

>Some of his other unorthodox views are to be found in his 111th blog(c). One of which is the view that the Greeks got their alphabet from the Phoenicians, who in turn got theirs from the Frisians! Another gem is his suggestion that “the Macedonians, as well as Alexander the Great, are descendants of the Frisian people!” The Frisians are considered by Peterson to be Atlantean.<

>The controversial Oera Linda Book is also claimed to have an association with with a Frisian Atlantis, sometimes referred to as Atland.<

(a) https://hiddenhistorysecrets.blogspot.com/2008/01/vikings-invade-egypt-in-1200-bc.html

(b) https://hiddenhistorysecrets.blogspot.ie/2008_01_01_archive.html

(c) The Frisian Vikings of Atlantis 3000 BC | Ellis111’s Blog (wordpress.com) *

Helgoland

Helgoland or Heligoland, (as readers of English more usually know it), formerly known as Heyleigeland or ‘Holy Land’, is an island situated in the North Sea off the coast of Germany with a smaller uninhabited island (Sand Island) to the east. They were a British possession from 1807 until 1890. Today, it is again German territory and has around 1200 inhabitants, who speak a dialect of the North Frisian language. Interestingly, the controversial Oera Linda Book was allegedly written on the nearby Frisian Islands in the Frisian language. Decades later, Walter Baucum also adopted Heligoland as the location of the Atlantean capital.

>Jürgen Spanuth‘suddenly’ alerted the English-speaking world of Atlantology to the possible significance of Helgoland in the 1970s when he published Atlantis of the North [0015] which claimed it as the location of Plato’s Atlantis. However, Spanuth omitted to mention that in the 1930s, Heinrich Pudor had already nominated Helgoland as Plato’s Island! [1693][1694], but was unreferenced by Spanuth. Rudolf Czeppan also endorsed Spanuth’s theory.<

Helgoland today is only a fraction of its size twelve hundred years ago(a). There is a tradition that it was once joined to the German mainland. It was also an important source of copper in Northern Europe. (In the map above, Helgoland is the two small islands in the shaded area). Furthermore, it has also been described as formerly the highest point in Doggerland.

Helgoland is also home to something found nowhere else on the planet, namely, red silex or flint, apparently highly prized during the Neolithic, Bronze and Iron Ages(c).

In 2012, M.A. Joramo published Atlantis Unveiled [1076] in which he also placed Atlantis on Helgoland in a theory heavily influenced by Jürgen Spanuth and Felice Vinci.

‘Archbishop’ Uwe Rosenkranz has claimed in a 2022 paper that Atlantis had been situated in Helgoland – “Egypt inscriptions from newer archeological excavations seem to prove the theory that ATLANTIS was a modern high technology nation in western Europe with center at the shores of the Northern sea- today´s Helgoland.”(d)

(a) https://ecowar.blogspot.com/2011/09/as-on-helgoland-so-in-cambodia.html

(b) Mysteria3000 » Archiv » Die Kontroverse um das Helgoländer Kupfer (archive.org)  (German)

(c) https://www.q-mag.org/blood-red-flint-tools-souvenirs-of-doggerland.html

(d) (99+) Atlantis in Kanaan und Israel | Uwe Rosenkranz – Academia.edu